Converter for iPod size USB to Cowon size USB?

peppergomez · 09-06-2011, 17:14

Does Cowon, or another company, make a converter that will allow me to plug the Cowon X7 into iPod compatible devices? My car, my Altec Lansing, and my Zepplin speaker dock are all made to support the iPod, so they have the "male" iPod USB end that plugs into an iPod.

A device that would have the iPod USB opening (to plug into the speaker dock or car stereo) and a "male" Cowon X7 USB plug would act as a middleman of sorts. I could plug it into my car and speaker docks, and then plug the Cowon X7 into it.

Such a device would be very helpful. Does anyone know if it exists?

Thank you.

peppergomez · 11-28-2011, 23:34

Bumping this- anyone?

doniago · 11-29-2011, 01:21

Never heard of such an adapter, sorry.

Sorensiim · 12-15-2011, 07:03

Short answer: No, can't be done.

The Apple Dock connector is just that - An Apple Dock connector. One of the many connections it provides is USB, but it can also be used as a lineout (digital and analog) and as an interface to control the iPod, ie. from the steering wheel in your car. The ADC has 30 pins and only 4 or 5 of these are used for USB. Because iPods, iPhones and iPads are so abundant, many companies have chosen to support this proprietary hideous abomination of a connector. But only Apple devices are allowed to use it - If cowon fitted the ADC to the X7 Apple's lawyers would come after them in nasty ways.

Cowon has chosen to fit an even worse connector to their players...

enderbean · 12-15-2011, 15:15

I'm so sick of all the different connectors. It's like having a unique audio jack in every player that needs a special chord to plug into your headphones. Totally an inefficient design technology. The only way it's ever a good thing is if improvements on transfer speed is accomplished.

Sorensiim · 12-15-2011, 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by enderbean

I'm so sick of all the different connectors. It's like having a unique audio jack in every player that needs a special chord to plug into your headphones. Totally an inefficient design technology. The only way it's ever a good thing is if improvements on transfer speed is accomplished.

It has a very nice side effect for Apple: Tie-in. Once your car, your home stereo and your alarm clock has an iPod dock, you won't look at any other players when your iPod dies. And don't forget about all the music you bought through iTunes - you'll have so much invested in the platform that you won't consider anything else than Apple products. Their entire business strategy is based on luring you in with an admittedly very polished user experience, then making sure you'll never leave. All of these iGadget owners now tied in to products with a standardized dock connector creates a huge market for iCompatible accessories, making people buy more stuff, thus increasing the tie-in. Despicable, but effective.

Kizune · 12-15-2011, 15:32

"Cowon has chosen to fit an even worse connector to their players..."

Just a note, the connector is standard in Korea and is also used by Samsung for example. Korea is Cowon's home country and their main market after all, and the connector is just the Korean version of mini USB and is probably more welcomed there than mini USB. From Cowon's point of view it was a good choice.

Sorensiim · 12-15-2011, 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizune

"Cowon has chosen to fit an even worse connector to their players..."

Just a note, the connector is standard in Korea and is also used by Samsung for example. Korea is Cowon's home country and their main market after all, and the connector is just the Korean version of mini USB and is probably more welcomed there than mini USB. From Cowon's point of view it was a good choice.

Yep. But for the rest of us, it kinda sucks ;-)

Kizune · 12-15-2011, 15:38

Sure, but Cowon often doesn't give a shit on what happens outside Korea. Their new Tablet, the R7, is a piece of useless crap and the Cowon AC1, which was released a couple of days ago, is a freaking car cam.

Sorensiim · 12-15-2011, 15:41

This headline sums it up pretty well: http://anythingbutipod.com/2011/12/r...-you-thinking/

The J3 is the only Cowon player that they didn't somehow manage to screw up, thankfully we have you to save us from their horrid UI! Can't wait to se beta 4 ready for my X7...

Kizune · 12-15-2011, 15:44

Hehe, don't worry, beta 1 (the version after the current alpha 3) will be released soon and will have lots of improvements.

doniago · 12-15-2011, 16:29

They're just trying to give us IA mods less work to do.

...Sadly, they're succeeding.

Enzyme · 12-15-2011, 18:13

yeah you can, kinda.

i use a uplay bluetooth ipod dock adapter and it works very well, not usb granted but it gets the songs to the speakers if that all you need.

picked one up extremely cheap, under 20usd on ebay and theres other brands.

smackfreek · 12-18-2011, 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by peppergomez

Does Cowon, or another company, make a converter that will allow me to plug the Cowon X7 into iPod compatible devices? My car, my Altec Lansing, and my Zepplin speaker dock are all made to support the iPod, so they have the "male" iPod USB end that plugs into an iPod.

A device that would have the iPod USB opening (to plug into the speaker dock or car stereo) and a "male" Cowon X7 USB plug would act as a middleman of sorts. I could plug it into my car and speaker docks, and then plug the Cowon X7 into it.

Such a device would be very helpful. Does anyone know if it exists?

Thank you.

You probably found what you need but this might be a partial solution for you.
http://www.amazon.com/Grom-Audio-iPh...4250981&sr=1-1

Enzyme · 12-18-2011, 19:52

... i should also have added that its worth looking on both hackaday and instructables for user modifications if you dont mind a bit of soldering.

especially hackaday as they love tearing into ipod\iphone stuff.

09-06-2011, 17:14	#1
peppergomez Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 5	Converter for iPod size USB to Cowon size USB? Does Cowon, or another company, make a converter that will allow me to plug the Cowon X7 into iPod compatible devices? My car, my Altec Lansing, and my Zepplin speaker dock are all made to support the iPod, so they have the "male" iPod USB end that plugs into an iPod. A device that would have the iPod USB opening (to plug into the speaker dock or car stereo) and a "male" Cowon X7 USB plug would act as a middleman of sorts. I could plug it into my car and speaker docks, and then plug the Cowon X7 into it. Such a device would be very helpful. Does anyone know if it exists? Thank you. Last edited by peppergomez; 09-06-2011 at 17:17..

11-29-2011, 01:21	#3
doniago I, Like, Do Stuff Here. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 4,651	Never heard of such an adapter, sorry. __________________ DonIago Iron Mod "When you do things right, people won't be sure you did anything at all."

12-15-2011, 15:32	#7
Kizune Feel free to call me 'Kizu' ;) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Germany, Baden-Württemberg Posts: 5,968	"Cowon has chosen to fit an even worse connector to their players..." Just a note, the connector is standard in Korea and is also used by Samsung for example. Korea is Cowon's home country and their main market after all, and the connector is just the Korean version of mini USB and is probably more welcomed there than mini USB. From Cowon's point of view it was a good choice. __________________ me @ Google+ \| Twitter \| Flickr \| deviantART audio setup: Cowon J3 32gb \| Cowon Z2 16gb \| Audio Technica ATH-M50 other: Galaxy Nexus \| Nexus 7 Last edited by Kizune; 12-15-2011 at 15:34..

12-15-2011, 15:38	#9
Kizune Feel free to call me 'Kizu' ;) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Germany, Baden-Württemberg Posts: 5,968	Sure, but Cowon often doesn't give a shit on what happens outside Korea. Their new Tablet, the R7, is a piece of useless crap and the Cowon AC1, which was released a couple of days ago, is a freaking car cam. __________________ me @ Google+ \| Twitter \| Flickr \| deviantART audio setup: Cowon J3 32gb \| Cowon Z2 16gb \| Audio Technica ATH-M50 other: Galaxy Nexus \| Nexus 7

12-15-2011, 15:44	#11
Kizune Feel free to call me 'Kizu' ;) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Germany, Baden-Württemberg Posts: 5,968	Hehe, don't worry, beta 1 (the version after the current alpha 3) will be released soon and will have lots of improvements. __________________ me @ Google+ \| Twitter \| Flickr \| deviantART audio setup: Cowon J3 32gb \| Cowon Z2 16gb \| Audio Technica ATH-M50 other: Galaxy Nexus \| Nexus 7

11-28-2011, 23:34	#2
peppergomez Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 5	Bumping this- anyone?

12-15-2011, 07:03	#4
Sorensiim Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 14	Short answer: No, can't be done. The Apple Dock connector is just that - An Apple Dock connector. One of the many connections it provides is USB, but it can also be used as a lineout (digital and analog) and as an interface to control the iPod, ie. from the steering wheel in your car. The ADC has 30 pins and only 4 or 5 of these are used for USB. Because iPods, iPhones and iPads are so abundant, many companies have chosen to support this proprietary hideous abomination of a connector. But only Apple devices are allowed to use it - If cowon fitted the ADC to the X7 Apple's lawyers would come after them in nasty ways. Cowon has chosen to fit an even worse connector to their players...

12-15-2011, 15:15	#5
enderbean Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: U.S.A Posts: 51	I'm so sick of all the different connectors. It's like having a unique audio jack in every player that needs a special chord to plug into your headphones. Totally an inefficient design technology. The only way it's ever a good thing is if improvements on transfer speed is accomplished.

12-15-2011, 15:41	#10
Sorensiim Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 14	This headline sums it up pretty well: http://anythingbutipod.com/2011/12/r...-you-thinking/ The J3 is the only Cowon player that they didn't somehow manage to screw up, thankfully we have you to save us from their horrid UI! Can't wait to se beta 4 ready for my X7...

12-15-2011, 16:29	#12
doniago I, Like, Do Stuff Here. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 4,651	They're just trying to give us IA mods less work to do. ...Sadly, they're succeeding. __________________ DonIago Iron Mod "When you do things right, people won't be sure you did anything at all."

12-15-2011, 18:13	#13
Enzyme (A)rrogance (B)reeds (I)gnorance Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 975	yeah you can, kinda. i use a uplay bluetooth ipod dock adapter and it works very well, not usb granted but it gets the songs to the speakers if that all you need. picked one up extremely cheap, under 20usd on ebay and theres other brands.

12-18-2011, 19:52	#15
Enzyme (A)rrogance (B)reeds (I)gnorance Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 975	... i should also have added that its worth looking on both hackaday and instructables for user modifications if you dont mind a bit of soldering. especially hackaday as they love tearing into ipod\iphone stuff.

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