Like the D2 to D2+, S9 to j3?

jakmanfirby · 04-08-2010, 05:19

Hey guys just curious, like the D2+'s firmware was ported to the D2, could that be possible with the s9 and j3? I know that many things wont work, like the speaker functions and stuff, but it should shouldnt it?

Kizune · 04-08-2010, 06:33

It won't work.. the J3 has different hardware, such as another screen, speakers and maybe some other things, which makes it impossible.
And I don't think that Cowon includes hardware support for the S9 in the J3 firmware...

tirim4 · 04-08-2010, 07:24

As we got the whole UI now I dont see the need for the J3 fw on the S9 if it not gets updated with lots of new feutureres in the future. The one thing is multi touch, but Im quite sure the S9 doesnt have th hardware for that.

The D2/D2+ situation was much different as the only differences in hardware were cosmetic.

WAI · 04-08-2010, 10:34

hmm... i wonder what would happen if i tried this

tirim4 · 04-08-2010, 12:04

^I won't mind if you try xD but your S9 might not like it...

Kizune · 04-08-2010, 12:12

I guess the S9 would just refuse installing the firmware and recover itself. That's what it does when you try to install a corrupted S9 firmware.

WAI · 04-08-2010, 12:41

hmm... interesting

Edit: heh, goes to show how brave i am guys. i renamed the File with S9 and the Firmware said success but i have totally bricked my S9

Houle_Marauder · 04-08-2010, 13:08

I was wondering when someone would try for this. I doubt it would work, but I suppose if someone twisted the firmware hard enough you could force it in--it just wouldn't work well.

WAI · 04-08-2010, 13:11

i just tried it and i'm somewhat pissed at myself but o well.

tirim4 · 04-08-2010, 14:24

Damn! Hope you'll be able to unbrick it!

WAI · 04-08-2010, 14:31

i'm trying tcctool. tcctool will work with the S9! but the Device just isn't listed!!! the S9 can be detected if i slide the power switch and hit the reset button.

tirim4 · 04-08-2010, 14:50

Try a few different computers. WHen I unbricked my D2 for the first time with Tcctool I had to run between three computers.

WAI · 04-08-2010, 15:05

i already tried a computer with xp and no go there

Kizune · 04-08-2010, 15:10

WAI, you are crazy

But it's interesting that the S9 accepted the firmware.. I guess it just checks whether the upgrade routine is valid which isn't the case when you install a corrupted firmware, but when you install the firmware of a similar device.

I hope you can fix your problem!

WAI · 04-08-2010, 15:19

me to dnw. Tcctool can work it's just the Device isn't added to Tcctool

actually, i may get a J3 when it come out if i can't get this issue fixed

04-08-2010, 05:19	#1
jakmanfirby Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 87	Like the D2 to D2+, S9 to j3? Hey guys just curious, like the D2+'s firmware was ported to the D2, could that be possible with the s9 and j3? I know that many things wont work, like the speaker functions and stuff, but it should shouldnt it?

04-08-2010, 06:33	#2
Kizune Feel free to call me 'Kizu' ;) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Germany, Baden-Württemberg Posts: 5,968	It won't work.. the J3 has different hardware, such as another screen, speakers and maybe some other things, which makes it impossible. And I don't think that Cowon includes hardware support for the S9 in the J3 firmware... __________________ me @ Google+ \| Twitter \| Flickr \| deviantART audio setup: Cowon J3 32gb \| Cowon Z2 16gb \| Audio Technica ATH-M50 other: Galaxy Nexus \| Nexus 7

04-08-2010, 07:24	#3
tirim4 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,287	As we got the whole UI now I dont see the need for the J3 fw on the S9 if it not gets updated with lots of new feutureres in the future. The one thing is multi touch, but Im quite sure the S9 doesnt have th hardware for that. The D2/D2+ situation was much different as the only differences in hardware were cosmetic. __________________ DAP: Cowon S9 32 GB titanium\|D2 4gb black -totally/partly dead- \| Headphones: AKG K66 \| IEMs: Sony MDR EX300 \| UCI: Chakra\|Aero Music\|Klaus Browser\|Flow Browser\|Klaus Video UI "I'm the funky monkey junky, You're a flunky bunky donkey"

04-08-2010, 10:34	#4
WAI VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: United States, Alabama Posts: 4,842	hmm... i wonder what would happen if i tried this __________________ My Thread D2 Theme/Flash Skin Packs, FAQ, and Tools S9 UCI's, FAQ, and Tools + READ the Disclaimer Notice.Thanks! Link to All COWON Products includes: Firmware/Manuals/logos (Unable to access them without Login) FOLLOW ME! Youtube UStream Twitter

04-08-2010, 12:04	#5
tirim4 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,287	^I won't mind if you try xD but your S9 might not like it... __________________ DAP: Cowon S9 32 GB titanium\|D2 4gb black -totally/partly dead- \| Headphones: AKG K66 \| IEMs: Sony MDR EX300 \| UCI: Chakra\|Aero Music\|Klaus Browser\|Flow Browser\|Klaus Video UI "I'm the funky monkey junky, You're a flunky bunky donkey"

04-08-2010, 12:12	#6
Kizune Feel free to call me 'Kizu' ;) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Germany, Baden-Württemberg Posts: 5,968	I guess the S9 would just refuse installing the firmware and recover itself. That's what it does when you try to install a corrupted S9 firmware. __________________ me @ Google+ \| Twitter \| Flickr \| deviantART audio setup: Cowon J3 32gb \| Cowon Z2 16gb \| Audio Technica ATH-M50 other: Galaxy Nexus \| Nexus 7

04-08-2010, 12:41	#7
WAI VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: United States, Alabama Posts: 4,842	hmm... interesting Edit: heh, goes to show how brave i am guys. i renamed the File with S9 and the Firmware said success but i have totally bricked my S9 __________________ My Thread D2 Theme/Flash Skin Packs, FAQ, and Tools S9 UCI's, FAQ, and Tools + READ the Disclaimer Notice.Thanks! Link to All COWON Products includes: Firmware/Manuals/logos (Unable to access them without Login) FOLLOW ME! Youtube UStream Twitter Last edited by WAI; 04-08-2010 at 13:00..

04-08-2010, 13:08	#8
Houle_Marauder Dr. Love Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 124	I was wondering when someone would try for this. I doubt it would work, but I suppose if someone twisted the firmware hard enough you could force it in--it just wouldn't work well. __________________ Rio Fuse, Iaudio X5, Cowon S9 --+-- Sony MDR-EX71, EX55, Sennheiser CX300 --+-- X-mini II, Logitech Z-4

04-08-2010, 13:11	#9
WAI VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: United States, Alabama Posts: 4,842	i just tried it and i'm somewhat pissed at myself but o well. __________________ My Thread D2 Theme/Flash Skin Packs, FAQ, and Tools S9 UCI's, FAQ, and Tools + READ the Disclaimer Notice.Thanks! Link to All COWON Products includes: Firmware/Manuals/logos (Unable to access them without Login) FOLLOW ME! Youtube UStream Twitter

04-08-2010, 14:24	#10
tirim4 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,287	Damn! Hope you'll be able to unbrick it! __________________ DAP: Cowon S9 32 GB titanium\|D2 4gb black -totally/partly dead- \| Headphones: AKG K66 \| IEMs: Sony MDR EX300 \| UCI: Chakra\|Aero Music\|Klaus Browser\|Flow Browser\|Klaus Video UI "I'm the funky monkey junky, You're a flunky bunky donkey"

04-08-2010, 14:31	#11
WAI VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: United States, Alabama Posts: 4,842	i'm trying tcctool. tcctool will work with the S9! but the Device just isn't listed!!! the S9 can be detected if i slide the power switch and hit the reset button. __________________ My Thread D2 Theme/Flash Skin Packs, FAQ, and Tools S9 UCI's, FAQ, and Tools + READ the Disclaimer Notice.Thanks! Link to All COWON Products includes: Firmware/Manuals/logos (Unable to access them without Login) FOLLOW ME! Youtube UStream Twitter

04-08-2010, 14:50	#12
tirim4 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,287	Try a few different computers. WHen I unbricked my D2 for the first time with Tcctool I had to run between three computers. __________________ DAP: Cowon S9 32 GB titanium\|D2 4gb black -totally/partly dead- \| Headphones: AKG K66 \| IEMs: Sony MDR EX300 \| UCI: Chakra\|Aero Music\|Klaus Browser\|Flow Browser\|Klaus Video UI "I'm the funky monkey junky, You're a flunky bunky donkey"

04-08-2010, 15:05	#13
WAI VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: United States, Alabama Posts: 4,842	i already tried a computer with xp and no go there __________________ My Thread D2 Theme/Flash Skin Packs, FAQ, and Tools S9 UCI's, FAQ, and Tools + READ the Disclaimer Notice.Thanks! Link to All COWON Products includes: Firmware/Manuals/logos (Unable to access them without Login) FOLLOW ME! Youtube UStream Twitter

04-08-2010, 15:10	#14
Kizune Feel free to call me 'Kizu' ;) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Germany, Baden-Württemberg Posts: 5,968	WAI, you are crazy But it's interesting that the S9 accepted the firmware.. I guess it just checks whether the upgrade routine is valid which isn't the case when you install a corrupted firmware, but when you install the firmware of a similar device. I hope you can fix your problem! __________________ me @ Google+ \| Twitter \| Flickr \| deviantART audio setup: Cowon J3 32gb \| Cowon Z2 16gb \| Audio Technica ATH-M50 other: Galaxy Nexus \| Nexus 7

04-08-2010, 15:19	#15
WAI VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: United States, Alabama Posts: 4,842	me to dnw. Tcctool can work it's just the Device isn't added to Tcctool actually, i may get a J3 when it come out if i can't get this issue fixed __________________ My Thread D2 Theme/Flash Skin Packs, FAQ, and Tools S9 UCI's, FAQ, and Tools + READ the Disclaimer Notice.Thanks! Link to All COWON Products includes: Firmware/Manuals/logos (Unable to access them without Login) FOLLOW ME! Youtube UStream Twitter

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