Oh the Possibilities (SDXC)

centerfold · 01-07-2009, 10:39

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/s...mbps-transfer/

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Usually, we poo-poo any new memory card format what with the plethora of options available today. But when a new itty bitty card is announced with a ridiculous 2TB (2 terabyte!) maximum capacity (theoretical), well, we're willing to make the jump to a new format. SDXC (SD eXtended Capacity) relies upon Microsoft's exFAT file system and stores more than 4,000 RAW images, 100 HD movies, or 60 hours of HD recording with a transfer rate of up to 300MBps. The first batch of retail cards will hit before March with read/write speeds up to 104MBps in unknown capacities, though certainly less than 2TB on day one.

Ohhhhh the possibilities !

I guess you can put everything in FLAC and then some !

Mr. Black · 01-07-2009, 10:43

Very cool, I wonder if current sdhc readers can easily be made to play nice with it...

Bullseye · 01-07-2009, 11:05

More news:

http://i.gizmodo.com/5125341/new-sd-...2tb-capacities

tirim4 · 01-07-2009, 11:24

A shame it seems like normal SDHC readers cant read thoose...Or am I wrong?

Mr. Black · 01-07-2009, 11:36

Well you're right...BUT maybe a firmware update could solve that?...I guess we'll wait to see if that's possibly.

vampire666 · 01-09-2009, 12:07

I guess that an update of a FW to allow SDXCon D2 is pretty much impossible (regardless it it's technicality possible)....I hope to be disproved though!

If it is technicality possible, I guess that we have to hope for rockbox once again...

Traveler0612 · 01-09-2009, 13:18

Short research leads me to believe it is primarily the adoption of exFAT ( the new MS filesystem ) that lets us have the higher capacity. I have not found anything that says the difference is electrical, or in the pins.
Sounds like a firmware update to me.

XXL-Music · 01-09-2009, 14:15

Several sources are reporting that SDXC cards are NOT compatible with SD/SDHC readers, not even by firmware upgrade. It's the hardware.

Traveler0612 · 01-09-2009, 15:02

Yeah, bummer, a little more googling came up with this:

http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archi...xc-details.php

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The good news is that SDxc will have the same SD and microSD format- they have dropped miniSD for this new SDxc standard. New devices supporting SDxc will be backwards compatible with all your SD and SDHC cards. The bad news is that unlike the transition from SD to SDHC, which sometimes only required a firmware update, requires supporting chipsets. So don’t expect to simply firmware upgrade your current player for this new format.

LostPhil · 01-09-2009, 15:10

Even if it did, we'd have maybe a 6000 file limit for it

centerfold · 01-09-2009, 15:59

Time for Cowon D2 v.2

masuat · 01-09-2009, 16:34

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read/write speeds up to 104MBps

Oh god.

vampire666 · 01-10-2009, 15:35

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Originally Posted by LostPhil

Even if it did, we'd have maybe a 6000 file limit for it

Lol! ...how true!

vampire666 · 01-12-2009, 05:18

Anyway...of course SD-XC won't be compatible with the current devices that can read SD and SD-HC.
The current SD-HC is capable of reaching 2TB, so why let the clients to have the possibility of keeping the current devices from "upgrading"?

It's the same story...companies should earn money some way right?

Jacques La Fey · 01-16-2009, 08:01

Great news, but 2TB - who know when

01-07-2009, 10:43	#2
Mr. Black ~~Title~~ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 404 Posts: 4,067	Very cool, I wonder if current sdhc readers can easily be made to play nice with it... __________________ Gone! Just like that!

01-07-2009, 11:05	#3
Bullseye Grado-ed with D2! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 394	More news: http://i.gizmodo.com/5125341/new-sd-...2tb-capacities __________________ · Cowon D2 - 4Gb + Shield + Transcend 16Gb SDHC · Sony Walkman A829 + Sony DR-BT21G BT · Sansa Clip 2Gb - Black · Grado Sr-225 · Phonak Audéo PFE Too many things...(sigh)

01-07-2009, 11:24	#4
tirim4 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,287	A shame it seems like normal SDHC readers cant read thoose...Or am I wrong? __________________ DAP: Cowon S9 32 GB titanium\|D2 4gb black -totally/partly dead- \| Headphones: AKG K66 \| IEMs: Sony MDR EX300 \| UCI: Chakra\|Aero Music\|Klaus Browser\|Flow Browser\|Klaus Video UI "I'm the funky monkey junky, You're a flunky bunky donkey"

01-07-2009, 11:36	#5
Mr. Black ~~Title~~ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 404 Posts: 4,067	Well you're right...BUT maybe a firmware update could solve that?...I guess we'll wait to see if that's possibly. __________________ Gone! Just like that!

01-09-2009, 12:07	#6
vampire666 Got some blood to spare? Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 337	I guess that an update of a FW to allow SDXCon D2 is pretty much impossible (regardless it it's technicality possible)....I hope to be disproved though! If it is technicality possible, I guess that we have to hope for rockbox once again... __________________ Tutorial: First steps after buying a D2 Present: waiting for my D2 ordered on 08/12/2008/ Finally arrived on the 19/12/2008...and enjoying it since then... (+32GB SDHC) Future: waiting for a 64GB S9 (not happening) or a possible D3 --> Not really impressed with D3 now that it's released

01-09-2009, 13:18	#7
Traveler0612 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 348	Short research leads me to believe it is primarily the adoption of exFAT ( the new MS filesystem ) that lets us have the higher capacity. I have not found anything that says the difference is electrical, or in the pins. Sounds like a firmware update to me. __________________ Cowon D2 8GiB ( 2.59 ) ; Sansa Fuze 4 GiB Sennheiser HD280 Pro, Sennheiser PX100-II , Ultimate Ears super.fi 3 L.A.M.E. 3.98.4 -V 3 \| Oggenc2.85 aoTuVb5.5 -q 4.35

01-09-2009, 14:15	#8
XXL-Music Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bleiswijk, Netherlands Posts: 327	Several sources are reporting that SDXC cards are NOT compatible with SD/SDHC readers, not even by firmware upgrade. It's the hardware. __________________ Current: Cowon S9 16 GB + Klipsch Image S4 + X-mini Max Previously: Creative Zen Micro 6GB + Sennheiser CX300

01-09-2009, 15:10	#10
LostPhil Desperado Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 426	Even if it did, we'd have maybe a 6000 file limit for it __________________ Cowon D2 -> biosciencegook cMoy -> Sennheiser PX100/Crossroads Mylarone X3i/Equation Audio RP-21

01-09-2009, 15:59	#11
centerfold Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 32	Time for Cowon D2 v.2

01-12-2009, 05:18	#14
vampire666 Got some blood to spare? Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 337	Anyway...of course SD-XC won't be compatible with the current devices that can read SD and SD-HC. The current SD-HC is capable of reaching 2TB, so why let the clients to have the possibility of keeping the current devices from "upgrading"? It's the same story...companies should earn money some way right? __________________ Tutorial: First steps after buying a D2 Present: waiting for my D2 ordered on 08/12/2008/ Finally arrived on the 19/12/2008...and enjoying it since then... (+32GB SDHC) Future: waiting for a 64GB S9 (not happening) or a possible D3 --> Not really impressed with D3 now that it's released

01-16-2009, 08:01	#15
Jacques La Fey Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 17	Great news, but 2TB - who know when

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