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Old 02-26-2008, 09:11   #31
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** I would not do a full format of the internal memory chips. Quick format was confirmed by Dalmane98 **

Dalmane98 did a quick format with good success. It allowed him to load 2.54, where previously, he could not.

SDHC is more than just the raw NAND chips. This link gives some good detail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_digital

This utility is made for SDHC, rather than all memory types.
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Old 02-26-2008, 09:57   #32
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:30   #33
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I hard pressed to see any benefit from defragmenting. Most of the time you are just reading from the device. It seems unlikely to get much below 5 seconds startup time.
A format and reload of the content to the SDHC or internal memory will put it all in sequence.
Can we say we have confirmed that the database corruptions when adding new content have been solved by this?
I have not had one since I did the format.
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:00   #34
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They certainly seem to have been solved for me at least. I formatted my SDHC card yesterday, loaded on about 8GB of songs, and it they showed up perfectly first time on the D2. Before, I had to restart it once or twice to get everything to read properly. I never even realised the Windows couldn't format a card properly.
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:05   #35
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No, it's for SD cards only.
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Old 02-26-2008, 16:21   #36
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Thumb Up 14 To 5 DOTS

Update:

2.54 is still working on my 4GB D2.

Startup time is still 14 dots before I started.

Copied all the files from the 8GB SDHC (Transcend) to my hard drive.

Did a Format Type: Full [Erase On] using SDFormatter.

Capacity of the SDHC Card after I moved the files; before and after running SDFormater:

Used: before 14.7MB; after 32kb
Free: before 7.48GB; after 7.56GB


Copied the files from my Hard Drive to the SDHC using a card reader.

5 Dots after the first startup.

Copying the same files to a Brand New 8GB SDHC card to compare the startup time between the two cards.

The Startup time with the same files on a never used 8GB SDHC (Patriot) is the same, 5 Dots after the first startup.

Conclusion: The SDFormatter will speed up startup time. Not sure what it does to the internal memory, but it did something because 2.54 works now!!

I will test that some more on Friday or this coming weekend.

Punnisher...who you replying to?
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Old 02-26-2008, 16:42   #37
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Does this mean it's safe to upgrade my 4GB D2 firmware from 2.51 to X.54?

I've been holding off because of all the horror stories, but I'm dying to try out all the cool Flash UIs and notebook programs people are cooking up... At least it's nice to hear I won't have to wait forever for my SD card to be recognized!
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Old 02-26-2008, 17:11   #38
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^^deton8

There is only way to find out...

SDFormatter will help your startup time if it takes forever to start your D2 with the SDHC card in...

I just loaded another 1,247 MP3 files for a book and my startup time is still 5 Dots...
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Old 02-26-2008, 19:16   #39
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Well, I went ahead and threw 3.54 on

I did a quick format of the D2 and a full format of my 8GB SDHC. Worked like a charm! I'll break it in at work tomorrow...

First startup (mem full, SD blank): 3 circles
First startup (mem full, SD ~5GB): 3 circles
Second startup: 5 circles

Thanks Dalmane98 for convincing me to take the plunge and big ups to the TS for finding the Panasonic format tool!
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I recovered from an x.53/x.54 fiasco, which made my regular startup time 15-16 dots. I went back to 2.51 with the help of TCCtool and managed to get the startup down to 7 dots (thanks Dalmane). Now that I deleted/formatted the internal memory and SDHC card with this Panasonic app, I'm down to 3 dots! This is awesome - thanks for this great find, Traveler0612.

On a side note - why the hell doesn't Cowon put a big red warning sticker on the D2: "Do not format with Windows"... it would have saved us all a lot of hassle, and lots of myths and voodoo "fixes". Thank god for this forum and its users, as they manage to find fixes for issues Cowon is unable to provide solutions for.

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Old 02-26-2008, 19:48   #41
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3 dots...holy S#*%!!!
what firmware is that with, 2.51? what D2 and SDHC card are you using?
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Old 02-26-2008, 21:32   #42
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It's strange, because formatting with windows worked perfectly for anything X.51 and older. Cowon must have changed their scanning process as to be more strict to actual SD specifications.

Sorry, my last reply was to the last post on page 2. Disregard it.
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Old 02-26-2008, 22:02   #43
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It's strange, because formatting with windows worked perfectly for anything X.51 and older. Cowon must have changed their scanning process as to be more strict to actual SD specifications.
Its true that the corruption gotten worse since x.53b but it didnt work perfectly - look here (post 13): http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showth...highlight=3.51
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3 dots...holy S#*%!!!
what firmware is that with, 2.51? what D2 and SDHC card are you using?
2.51, 2GB D2, 8GB Kingston Class 6. Internal memory full with videos (~50 videos, ~30MB free space), SD card full with audio tracks (~1.200 tracks, ~120MB free).

I did the formatting as Dalmane mentioned: quick format for the internal memory and full format for the SDHC card.

I can hardly believe it myself. Startup time is almost as excellent as on firmware 2.20, which wasn't infected with the database functionality.

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Old 02-27-2008, 11:00   #45
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I also formatted my sandisk SDHC 4gb memory card. With FW 2.51 I get three dots to boot. The card is full and internal memory is almost full :]. When I add some new files, it takes full circle without one dot to boot :]. PERFECT :]. I wonder how will it work with 16gb card. Thanks for a great app! :]
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