Cowon x7 album art problem

plodder627 · 06-19-2012, 03:16

Hi all, New to the forum having recently purchased the X7 so apologies if this issue has been dealt with elsewhere but I have had a good look around and as yet don't have a solution to my problem. That is, getting album art to show up on my music files when I play them. I am using Leaf and Sense and have renamed the jpg associated with the music file(s) "cover" and placed it in the relevant play list but it still picks the jpg cover files from the System/Flash UI/Sense/alt_covers folder. I am using the program "Playlist Creator" to create the playlist for each folder and include the jpg but no success. Is there any way to get the correct jpg image up for the music being played?
Many thanks - look forward to your replies.....

FrankPsychRight · 06-28-2012, 11:51

Hi - have you found a solution???

I have a problem with album art that's maybe the same. As I have about 90 gigs of music and haven't been through all I can't say this with a 100% certainty:

All my files have been organised (in some version of) iTunes. Probably half of the covers was some iTunes was able to find and so the files were tagged auto.

Then there were all the files which iTunes could find tracknames for BUT NO album art. Here I manually dragged the album art into iTunes and tagged the files.

It seems like that it's the album art in these files which my X7 don't show.

When I view my files in Mp3Tag I can see that the album art that do show on the X7 are set to "Front Cover". The album art that don't show is set to "Other".

Heureka! I thought.... close, but no cigar. Changing this setting didn't do anything. Instead I was able to "remove" some album art that DID show. In Mp3Tag I chose all files in one library and just pressed save - I didn't delete the cover art. The TAG-ID-version changed....and now the cover don't show anymore (although it's still embedded in the file!).

ANY CLUES? ANYONE?

plodder627 · 06-28-2012, 18:33

Sorry, can't help with your similar dilemma. I think I will need to use some different software if I am to have any chance of matching album art with the music file being played. Gets a little tricky when, like you, I already have 40 or so Gig of playlists on the X7 and don't really want to have to start all over again - I've already spent more time than I can really afford on this thing! Learnt a lot in the process but it has nearly ended up thrown across the room a couple of times! Good luck - let us know if you work it out - or if anyone else can shed some light onto the problem.....

FrankPsychRight · 06-29-2012, 02:28

Thanks for the answer. I found this earlier on, but haven't tried it yet (90 gigs of music is a lot to process tag-wise and it takes 3-4 hours I think to copy it all onto the X7...):

http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showth...091#post315091

Some of what is described here could maybe be of use although at this point the solution doesn't quite match my problem. I think I'll try deleting all of the music on the X7, process tags on 10 albums via Mediamonkey, transfer via Mediamonkey and see what happens.

Here's another post that might shed some light on the problem - although I can't find the folders he's talking about:

http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showpo...2&postcount=33

Cheers!

PS. Still - this player is the best thing I've bought in years. Just needed something that would hold all my music without being a slave to iTunes...and be able to watch a documenaty before bedtime without having to do a lot of conversion. The X7 is excellent at this. And even has TV out which mean the kids can watch some of their own movies when on holiday.

Sokudo Ningyou · 07-01-2012, 20:19

I've had no problem with album art, except for some files which were mistakenly loaded with .png files, which the player won't recognize. I use J. River Media Center, put all the cover art into the tags, plus have a "cover.jpg" in each folder.

Here's a question, though: if you have Windows 7, and have copies of the files on your harddrive, do the files show up as mini-icons of the cover art? If not, iTunes isn't properly putting the art into the tags, or there's something wrong with the file (which I've also had problems with; I've just re-converted them with Foobar, and then they show up just fine).

FrankPsychRight · 07-05-2012, 03:32

OH MY!! You solved my problem!! THANKS!

I didn't know that the player don't recognize .png - and second, I hadn't thought of that my files could have been embedded with album art in different formats. I'm not sure, but it seems that even iTunes sometimes embed png-files and not only jpg.

For future reference this is what I did to "clean up" my 90 gigs of albums:

1) I made a simple and normal search on "*.*" in my music-library via Win7.

2) I then sorted the findings on "type" and deleted everything else than the folders and main mp3-files.

3) I then did a batch job via Mp3Tag to extract all album art from the files (only one file per album). I added an action in Mp3Tag with the command line "$validate($trim(folder),)" which saves the embedded album art inside the album folder and names it "folder".? - what ever type it is.

4) Thus I found about 150 albums that had been encoded with png-files. The rest was encoded with jpg.

5) Instead of googling the album art again or using a autotag-function in one of the many tagging-software out there, I marked all the png-files and opened them all in Photoshop. As I already had the album art in a good quality - but just as a png - I found that this was easiest (but there's probably other ways. I once had a program that for example had a setting where you could choose only to embed files larger than e.g. 500x500).

6) In Photoshop in ran the "Image Processor" (placed under File > Scripts ...) and converted all the png's to jpg's with one click. All the new jpg's will be placed in the right album librabries in a folder called "JPEG".

7) Then I removed all cover art from the 150 albums via Mp3Tag and embedded the new art - the jpg's. I made another search on "*.*" via Win7 and marked all the png's and JPEG-libs for deletion.

...and so far everything works just fine! Just love that COWON even more now!!

Thanks Sokudo!

plodder627 · 07-06-2012, 18:36

Thanks guys . I'll try out your suggestion and hopefully solve the problem!

smackfreek · 07-06-2012, 19:18

There is a thread on here somewhere about this. If you put the album art in the album folder with the music and name it

cover.jpg

it will appear when playing the songs in that folder

plodder627 · 07-06-2012, 20:54

Thanks for getting back on this but I have included the jpg cover file and renamed it "cover.jpg" and put it in the folder of the relevant album but the art that comes up still comes from the System/Flash UI/Sense/alt_covers folder from a selection of random cover files labelled cover1 thru to cover9. If I create another cover with the number 10 or higher and place that in the above folder it won't select it at all. MMmmm not sure what is going on....

06-19-2012, 03:16	#1
plodder627 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 4	Cowon x7 album art problem Hi all, New to the forum having recently purchased the X7 so apologies if this issue has been dealt with elsewhere but I have had a good look around and as yet don't have a solution to my problem. That is, getting album art to show up on my music files when I play them. I am using Leaf and Sense and have renamed the jpg associated with the music file(s) "cover" and placed it in the relevant play list but it still picks the jpg cover files from the System/Flash UI/Sense/alt_covers folder. I am using the program "Playlist Creator" to create the playlist for each folder and include the jpg but no success. Is there any way to get the correct jpg image up for the music being played? Many thanks - look forward to your replies.....

07-01-2012, 20:19	#5
Sokudo Ningyou This Space For Rent Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 54	I've had no problem with album art, except for some files which were mistakenly loaded with .png files, which the player won't recognize. I use J. River Media Center, put all the cover art into the tags, plus have a "cover.jpg" in each folder. Here's a question, though: if you have Windows 7, and have copies of the files on your harddrive, do the files show up as mini-icons of the cover art? If not, iTunes isn't properly putting the art into the tags, or there's something wrong with the file (which I've also had problems with; I've just re-converted them with Foobar, and then they show up just fine). __________________ "I'm looking for backing for an unauthorized autobiography that I am writing. Hopefully, this will sell in such huge numbers that I will be able to sue myself for an extraordinary amount of money and finance the film version in which I will play everybody."

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06-28-2012, 11:51	#2
FrankPsychRight Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Denmark Posts: 10	Hi - have you found a solution??? I have a problem with album art that's maybe the same. As I have about 90 gigs of music and haven't been through all I can't say this with a 100% certainty: All my files have been organised (in some version of) iTunes. Probably half of the covers was some iTunes was able to find and so the files were tagged auto. Then there were all the files which iTunes could find tracknames for BUT NO album art. Here I manually dragged the album art into iTunes and tagged the files. It seems like that it's the album art in these files which my X7 don't show. When I view my files in Mp3Tag I can see that the album art that do show on the X7 are set to "Front Cover". The album art that don't show is set to "Other". Heureka! I thought.... close, but no cigar. Changing this setting didn't do anything. Instead I was able to "remove" some album art that DID show. In Mp3Tag I chose all files in one library and just pressed save - I didn't delete the cover art. The TAG-ID-version changed....and now the cover don't show anymore (although it's still embedded in the file!). ANY CLUES? ANYONE?

06-28-2012, 18:33	#3
plodder627 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 4	Sorry, can't help with your similar dilemma. I think I will need to use some different software if I am to have any chance of matching album art with the music file being played. Gets a little tricky when, like you, I already have 40 or so Gig of playlists on the X7 and don't really want to have to start all over again - I've already spent more time than I can really afford on this thing! Learnt a lot in the process but it has nearly ended up thrown across the room a couple of times! Good luck - let us know if you work it out - or if anyone else can shed some light onto the problem.....

06-29-2012, 02:28	#4
FrankPsychRight Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Denmark Posts: 10	Thanks for the answer. I found this earlier on, but haven't tried it yet (90 gigs of music is a lot to process tag-wise and it takes 3-4 hours I think to copy it all onto the X7...): http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showth...091#post315091 Some of what is described here could maybe be of use although at this point the solution doesn't quite match my problem. I think I'll try deleting all of the music on the X7, process tags on 10 albums via Mediamonkey, transfer via Mediamonkey and see what happens. Here's another post that might shed some light on the problem - although I can't find the folders he's talking about: http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showpo...2&postcount=33 Cheers! PS. Still - this player is the best thing I've bought in years. Just needed something that would hold all my music without being a slave to iTunes...and be able to watch a documenaty before bedtime without having to do a lot of conversion. The X7 is excellent at this. And even has TV out which mean the kids can watch some of their own movies when on holiday.

07-05-2012, 03:32	#6
FrankPsychRight Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Denmark Posts: 10	OH MY!! You solved my problem!! THANKS! I didn't know that the player don't recognize .png - and second, I hadn't thought of that my files could have been embedded with album art in different formats. I'm not sure, but it seems that even iTunes sometimes embed png-files and not only jpg. For future reference this is what I did to "clean up" my 90 gigs of albums: 1) I made a simple and normal search on "." in my music-library via Win7. 2) I then sorted the findings on "type" and deleted everything else than the folders and main mp3-files. 3) I then did a batch job via Mp3Tag to extract all album art from the files (only one file per album). I added an action in Mp3Tag with the command line "$validate($trim(folder),)" which saves the embedded album art inside the album folder and names it "folder".? - what ever type it is. 4) Thus I found about 150 albums that had been encoded with png-files. The rest was encoded with jpg. 5) Instead of googling the album art again or using a autotag-function in one of the many tagging-software out there, I marked all the png-files and opened them all in Photoshop. As I already had the album art in a good quality - but just as a png - I found that this was easiest (but there's probably other ways. I once had a program that for example had a setting where you could choose only to embed files larger than e.g. 500x500). 6) In Photoshop in ran the "Image Processor" (placed under File > Scripts ...) and converted all the png's to jpg's with one click. All the new jpg's will be placed in the right album librabries in a folder called "JPEG". 7) Then I removed all cover art from the 150 albums via Mp3Tag and embedded the new art - the jpg's. I made another search on "." via Win7 and marked all the png's and JPEG-libs for deletion. ...and so far everything works just fine! Just love that COWON even more now!! Thanks Sokudo!

07-06-2012, 18:36	#7
plodder627 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 4	Thanks guys . I'll try out your suggestion and hopefully solve the problem!

07-06-2012, 19:18	#8
smackfreek Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 21	There is a thread on here somewhere about this. If you put the album art in the album folder with the music and name it cover.jpg it will appear when playing the songs in that folder

07-06-2012, 20:54	#9
plodder627 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 4	Thanks for getting back on this but I have included the jpg cover file and renamed it "cover.jpg" and put it in the folder of the relevant album but the art that comes up still comes from the System/Flash UI/Sense/alt_covers folder from a selection of random cover files labelled cover1 thru to cover9. If I create another cover with the number 10 or higher and place that in the above folder it won't select it at all. MMmmm not sure what is going on....