National DAB+ radio on-air in Germany (01-08-2011)

michael1946 · 08-04-2011, 05:19

Have a look at http://www.worlddab.org/country_information/germany!

Wrzlbrnft · 08-04-2011, 10:21

Unfortunately the D2 DAB isn't able to receive the new 5A / 5C ensemble. When I took a scan the bar first freezed for a few seconds, but then continued without saving the new stations. I tried it in several German cities (Stuttgart, Leipzig, Düsseldorf) with firmware 4.60b.

I really hope that there will be soon a firmware update as I never had any problems to receive other DAB+ ensembles for example in Switzerland or Belgium.

michael1946 · 08-04-2011, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrzlbrnft

Unfortunately the D2 DAB isn't able to receive the new 5A / 5C ensemble. When I took a scan the bar first freezed for a few seconds, but then continued without saving the new stations. I tried it in several German cities (Stuttgart, Leipzig, Düsseldorf) with firmware 4.60b.

I really hope that there will be soon a firmware update as I never had any problems to receive other DAB+ ensembles for example in Switzerland or Belgium.

What about switching to FW D2+ DAB 4.13? The switch worked without problems on my D2 DAB!?

Wrzlbrnft · 08-04-2011, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael1946

What about switching to FW D2+ DAB 4.13? The switch worked without problems on my D2 DAB!?

Oh! I never noticed that the D2+ firmware also works on a D2. I'll give it a try!

Edit: I'm a little bit unsure. Which files do I have to download to get the 4.13 FW correctly installed on my D2? I have Rockbox on my device so there should be a possibility for installing without tcctool, isn't it? (I already worked with tcctool, but I remember it was very complicated

) The instructions only seem to contain informations for 2.01 and 2.59...

michael1946 · 08-04-2011, 16:12

I went the long and winding tcctool way successfully last autumn. There is an alternative for migrating from D2 FW to D2+ FW, have a look at http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showpo...11&postcount=7.
Even if Petuh21 still has problems going this way, I don't think there is a principal problem in crashdebugs described way.
I think this way should work with according modifications for migrating from D2 DAB FW to D2+ DAB FW.

Wrzlbrnft · 08-04-2011, 18:10

Okay, I also took the tcctool way. Now 4.13 is running on my D2 DAB including the Rockbox bootloader. Seems to work. So next weekend should be a possibility to check out the new "DR Deutschland" ensemble in Germany.

Wrzlbrnft · 08-07-2011, 05:59

Obviously 4.13 isn't able either to receive the national ensemble. When I took a scan yesterday in Frankfurt/Main there was the same behaviour as with 4.60b.

Helli · 08-07-2011, 10:03

same here, none of the FW-versions for D2 / D2+ work with the new german DAB+ "Bundesmux".
I have a new C2-DMB too, it either doesnt work :-( - and my old iriver b20 does also not work.
I'm not very optimistic that cowon will release a new firmware for the bundesmux...

michael1946 · 08-14-2011, 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrzlbrnft

Unfortunately the D2 DAB isn't able to receive the new 5A / 5C ensemble. When I took a scan the bar first freezed for a few seconds, but then continued without saving the new stations. I tried it in several German cities (Stuttgart, Leipzig, Düsseldorf) with firmware 4.60b.

I really hope that there will be soon a firmware update as I never had any problems to receive other DAB+ ensembles for example in Switzerland or Belgium.

According to Cowons spec of D2+ DAB (see http://www.cowon-germany.com/?page=file&id=738) DAB supports the frequency range of band III (174-240 MHz).
The frequency range of channel 5A starts at 174,16 MHz, so according to spec it should work?!

The "Bundesmux" bouquet is being transferred via channel 5C (178,352 MHz) and FW release 4.13 really should support DAB+.

Helli · 08-22-2011, 08:01

i wrote to Cowon Germany regarding this issue 2 weeks ago, but didnt receive any answer :-(

michael1946 · 02-18-2012, 06:36

According to Wikipedia (see http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowon) at least the D2 DAB cannot scan channels 5A and 5C because of military use of channel 5 before introduction of DAB+!

So everybody interested in getting a full DAB+ functionality in Germany should urge Cowon to provide an upgrade!!

michael1946 · 03-01-2013, 08:41

Today I got an Email answer from Cowon service Germany:
This problem was addressed last year in Korea, but due to lack of manpower there won't be a solution for the near future.

So anybody interested in getting a solution for this fantastic device by a FW upgrade to receive channels 5A and 5C should keep urging Cowon HQ and Cowon Germany!!!

08-04-2011, 05:19	#1
michael1946 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: near Krefeld, Germany Posts: 326	National DAB+ radio on-air in Germany (01-08-2011) Have a look at http://www.worlddab.org/country_information/germany!

08-04-2011, 16:12	#5
michael1946 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: near Krefeld, Germany Posts: 326	I went the long and winding tcctool way successfully last autumn. There is an alternative for migrating from D2 FW to D2+ FW, have a look at http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showpo...11&postcount=7. Even if Petuh21 still has problems going this way, I don't think there is a principal problem in crashdebugs described way. I think this way should work with according modifications for migrating from D2 DAB FW to D2+ DAB FW. Last edited by michael1946; 08-04-2011 at 16:55..

02-18-2012, 06:36	#11
michael1946 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: near Krefeld, Germany Posts: 326	According to Wikipedia (see http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowon) at least the D2 DAB cannot scan channels 5A and 5C because of military use of channel 5 before introduction of DAB+! So everybody interested in getting a full DAB+ functionality in Germany should urge Cowon to provide an upgrade!! Last edited by michael1946; 02-24-2012 at 09:46..

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08-04-2011, 10:21	#2
Wrzlbrnft Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Switzerland Posts: 6	Unfortunately the D2 DAB isn't able to receive the new 5A / 5C ensemble. When I took a scan the bar first freezed for a few seconds, but then continued without saving the new stations. I tried it in several German cities (Stuttgart, Leipzig, Düsseldorf) with firmware 4.60b. I really hope that there will be soon a firmware update as I never had any problems to receive other DAB+ ensembles for example in Switzerland or Belgium.

08-04-2011, 18:10	#6
Wrzlbrnft Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Switzerland Posts: 6	Okay, I also took the tcctool way. Now 4.13 is running on my D2 DAB including the Rockbox bootloader. Seems to work. So next weekend should be a possibility to check out the new "DR Deutschland" ensemble in Germany.

08-07-2011, 05:59	#7
Wrzlbrnft Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Switzerland Posts: 6	Obviously 4.13 isn't able either to receive the national ensemble. When I took a scan yesterday in Frankfurt/Main there was the same behaviour as with 4.60b.

08-07-2011, 10:03	#8
Helli Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 132	same here, none of the FW-versions for D2 / D2+ work with the new german DAB+ "Bundesmux". I have a new C2-DMB too, it either doesnt work :-( - and my old iriver b20 does also not work. I'm not very optimistic that cowon will release a new firmware for the bundesmux...

08-22-2011, 08:01	#10
Helli Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 132	i wrote to Cowon Germany regarding this issue 2 weeks ago, but didnt receive any answer :-(

03-01-2013, 08:41	#12
michael1946 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: near Krefeld, Germany Posts: 326	Today I got an Email answer from Cowon service Germany: This problem was addressed last year in Korea, but due to lack of manpower there won't be a solution for the near future. So anybody interested in getting a solution for this fantastic device by a FW upgrade to receive channels 5A and 5C should keep urging Cowon HQ and Cowon Germany!!!