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Old 03-15-2009, 01:13   #1
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http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=e...4e75f6e8ebb871

Phew...shoot the messenger of good news, too? heheh

Alright, I have a few moments now, I will explain things a little more; you guys aren't really technically or emotionally equipped for "zero day" firmware, huh? ; ) Well you should at least take the time to read this entire post, I took the time to write it, and this is not my profession, hobby, or pleasure. (In fact, it's a pain in the ass).

The firmware is legit, and originated from cowon; it was originally sent by a tech center rep. If you don't have the tech savvy to get this running, (I'm sure SOMEONE here does!), then you will simply have to take a stranger's word on it, (and hope a doniago doesn't delete the data before someone can make use of it).

It does run on the D2, it runs on mine. However, you guys are taking a very heavy handed approach. This is not a bundled tutorial script for mass consumption, it's the raw data...and simply put, this raw data is not meant for a D2.

Cowon does not want to make it simple for this to run on a D2, it negates the entire D2+ product line. Many of you fail to grasp this.

It really is telling that you would assume first that someone went to great lengths to create an elaborate hoax...instead of first questioning your own technical abilities. Hey maybe you're right, maybe people that hang around forums also get their rocks off on spending hours to waste others' time. I don't hang around forums, and for me, the time spent on this post is waste enough.

Alright, without further digression, I will provide a bit more clarity:

1) The man from Chile is mostly right; good work Detective DaremoS. There is a special firmware exe used for loading the D2+, (this has been known for some time, guys...I figured you would assume this!). As I understand it, there is data, or some kind of data manipulation routines, that are contained in the firmware updater exe and are not contained in the zip.

2) The exe loader has been publically available for some time. The firmware is now provided in this thread.

3) You now have all the pieces, this is gold if you can implement it. Think of it as a puzzle, for everyone to work together on.

4) An acquaintance originally showed me all this, and got it running on my d2. For all you "doubting doniagos", I will take another minute of my time to explain why he did not post here himself:

a) he doesnt speak english very well
b) he is far more mercantile than altruistic
c) he's actually really a misanthrope and doesn't give a shit about enriching people like doniago with the fruits of his labor
d) it's not surprising at all: people that generally have the "zero day" stuff aren't interested in sharing, and they certainly aren't going to take the time to program easy to use scripts so a kiddie can press one button and make it work

5) At my request, he gave me permission to post the .zip in this forum, which isn't read by most Koreans.

6) In case you haven't figured it out yet, a debugger was used on the .exe firmware loader. A d2+ was utilized, as was a hex editor.

7) for obvious reasons, I am not possessing or distributing a reverse engineered firmware loader or patch. Especially on this board!

8) I am not advocoating that you reverse engineer any cowon intellectual property or copyright protection mechanisms. In fact, I was hoping that someone could get it running using a NEW program, or combining elements of the old firmware code, which would be considerably more kosher...someone here can actually program can't they?

9) My "tone" and lack of explanation in the post was for the following reason:
I don't have to waste time with explanations-- I have the goods, that should speak for itself.

I gave you all the goods, but you didn't realize what you had. Instead, the "iron mod" was about to erase it from the forum.

Okay, maybe I posted in the wrong place, and made one comment too many towards doniago's mother...I recognize that this isn't a forum devoted to programming. It's a fansite for people that really like their D2. I posted here because I thought this would be the place it would be most appreciated (the average programmer doesnt give a damn about making d2+ fw work with d2).

I'll tell you this: someone here has probably already downloaded the fw, debugged and patched the exe, and is quietly smiling to himself with his new d2+ "upgrading" website business idea.

I was hoping to undercut that sort of nonsense by giving the public a head start. I guess the "public" is too bound by invented little forum rules and suspicious to take advantage of what they've got. And by public, I mean you and your mother, doniago.

[c'mon stop kiddin yourself, this isn't a scholarly journal...take a joke, doniago]

So here's what I suggest:
All you fans that want the D2+ running on the D2, and want it public:
work together to make it work. Change the title from "unverified" to "programmers needed".

Obviously it takes a little bit of trust to spend the time working on these mysterious files. But c'mon, how did you expect the firmware would get to you? Bundled with a bow and script kiddie friendly all-in-one gui? Or perhaps handed out as a free upgrade by Cowon, yknow...so you don't have to buy the D2+. Hahahah....I've already gone far above and beyond what most zeroday h4x0r releases document...I'm not going to spoonfeed anything more, or go to any further lengths to prove the veracity of these statements.

EDIT: Cheers guys, thanks for all the positive PM's, however, you should report your progress in the new programming thread so that everyone can see. Also, word is that the Russians are circulating something clever, something also popped up in the russian language site I guess...so there are others that are successful.

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i am saving this post for my reasons man. i am still reading.

Edit: i see, you want us users to try and create this on our own or have our users who are into programming try to make this work. interesting... but i feel why the Mods delete this. this could be considered illegal.
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mods deleted it because they thought it was a hoax. I don't want you users to do anything...but I know a lot of you want to run D2+ firmware on the D2.

Well, if you do still want the d2+ fw on the d2, then here it is, make it happen. You are welcome.
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Dude, if you didn't want us to think it was a hoax you could have provided a direct link in your earlier threads. As was requested when you received a Warning. Instead, you essentially recreated your original post, except went off on how the mods were persecuting you. Not helpful.

You also could have communicated with the staff directly to explain what you were aiming for. You opted not to.

Your post above frankly shows a crap attitude towards your fellow board members and the staff who are just doing their jobs. Please show more respect for everyone in the future.

Given your current track record, I _urge_ you to carefully consider the tone of your future posts. I'm letting your attitude slide this time as a show of good faith, but in general that kind of talk would fall under Trolling.
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mods deleted it because they thought it was a hoax. I don't want you users to do anything...but I know a lot of you want to run D2+ firmware on the D2.

Well, if you do still want the d2+ fw on the d2, then here it is, make it happen. You are welcome.
i wasn't one of the users who really... wanted the FW on the D2. i'm no programmer so i can't help out in this project. i do want to thank you for posting these Files and for giving us the D2+ Theme or whoever uploaded it here on the Forums.

Note: your mood has to change dude as stated above
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:13   #6
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guys i dont know wt happnd earlier, but this guy seems to be really helpful.......im not a programmer but yes im one of the crazy users who realllllllly want this to work on their vintage D2s

PS - thnx a lot D2leak
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guys i dont know wt happnd earlier, but this guy seems to be really helpful.......im not a programmer but yes im one of the crazy users who realllllllly want this to work on their vintage D2s

PS - thnx a lot D2leak
to me all i really wanted was the D2+ theme and i got it. check out my new thread i made Link
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:10   #8
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D2Leak,

I really do not care if I get a warning or anything for posting this.

You have broken more rules for this forum, gotten away with Flaming People, their relatives, you got someone to post Firmware that has not been released to the public, admitted that someone hacked the Firmware and the list just goes on and on...

Why are you still here??? For some pipe dream?

Normal folks do not post links to software that does not work...I know you posted nothing...You got someone else to do it for you...

I should send a PM to Austinv....

You tell a really good story, until you get to the following points:

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6) In case you haven't figured it out yet, a debugger was used on the .exe firmware loader. A d2+ was utilized, as was a hex editor.
Not possible without the source code.

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7) for obvious reasons, I am not possessing or distributing a reverse engineered firmware loader or patch. Especially on this board!
With good reason...It would be against the law in the USA...

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8) I am not advocoating that you reverse engineer any cowon intellectual property or copyright protection mechanisms. In fact, I was hoping that someone could get it running using a NEW program, or combining elements of the old firmware code, which would be considerably more kosher...someone here can actually program can't they?
Again, not possible without the source code.

The following statements makes me wonder about you also:

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Okay, maybe I posted in the wrong place, and made one comment too many towards doniago's mother...
I would really like to know why you attacked doniago? Why not Dominic?

I would also like to know why you assumed doniago deleted your posts?

Doniago has been more than fair with you...If it was me...You would be history and I would send your information to other forums...Sort of Black List you.

IHMO, if you say anything/something about someones Mother on this forum, you should be BANNED for Life...There is no excuse for that.

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The way you wrote the above suggests that you do not own a D2...Your writting style changed.

How would you know what the average programmer thinks? You be one???

I think not...You stated you had someone else get the so called Firmware working on your so called D2. Why not post a video of it...

In fact I think you are just a "want'a be something" who is having a good laugh at our expense.

If I was a Mod/Administrator you would be gone...regardless if the goods you were giving out were from Cowon...They have not released them so that makes them stolen goods in my book...

Just my thoughts on this whole mess..
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You're right Mr. Wisconsin...i am having a laugh at your expense...and anyone that knows what a low level debugger is also gets the joke. Not your time of day? heheheh lighten up...(seriously, enough big-macs and coca-cola) bajajajaja I'm just JOKING with you. gee wiz..and golly.. is humour not permitted in forum intercourse? must it all be this fire?

in other news:
Congratulations to Dewgong and others in the Mother Russia, they are running with this thing. Now THAT'S a mother i send my regards to. Looks like the instructions for running bbe+ on d2 are going to be written in Russian.

Funny how this turned international overnight...must be a pretty big hoax. The disparity between the sophistication of discourse on this site, as contrasted to the russian and estonian forums is, frankly, astonishing. How long have you been this far behind, USA?

But go ahead, instead of getting embarrassed, shutting up and working harder....lash out, complain louder that your sensibilities have been offended and forum norms of decorum violated. I'm embarrassed for you...cmon guys....im fairly certain this fw upgrade is being sold next to chicken feet on the streets of china by now.

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You're right Mr. Wisconsin...i am having a laugh at your expense...and anyone that knows what a low level debugger is also gets the joke.

Congratulations to Dewgong and others in Mother Russia, they are running with this thing. Looks like the instructions for running bbe+ on d2 are going to be written in Russian.

Funny how this turned international overnight...must be a pretty big hoax. The disparity between the sophistication of discourse on this site, as compared to the russian and estonian forums is, frankly, astonishing. How long have you been this far behind USA?

But go ahead, instead of getting embarrassed, shutting up and working harder....lash out, complain louder that your sensibilities have been offended and forum norms of decorum violated. I'm embarrassed for you.
Ok, listen hear. You may, rather probably, think I'm just another a-hole, and you're probably right. But what fun do you honestly get out of annoying the hell out of everyone? Do you honestly think that you are a better person because you have a friend who has a moderate level of programming knowlege? If I were you, I'd find a life, and then buy it because a life where the only way to fulfill yourself is to annoy fellow human beings is, imo, not exactly a good one. So d2Leak, thanks for your help, but I'm sure we'd all appreciate it if you would leave and not come back.
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Wow the russians managed to do it ?

If i really knew about these things i would help, sadly can't
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We're done here.

Folks, please try to remember that flaming a flamer/troll isn't acceptable here. Report them and let the staff handle it.

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